tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post2926760567501471347..comments2023-09-29T06:57:06.991-07:00Comments on Anglachel's Journal: Taking Out the TrashAnglachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01110546252851760414noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-20066166440670411982008-09-05T06:00:00.000-07:002008-09-05T06:00:00.000-07:00Thanks for expressing precisely what has bothered ...Thanks for expressing precisely what has bothered me since Palin entered. As a woman and feminist, I was profoundly offended by her selection. Her rotten political positions should be all we focus on. I fear the male lefty lip-smacking over Palin's personal stuff that only distract from the looming possibility of McPain in the WH.<BR/> <BR/>There are many ways to be racist; people of color are always sensitive to the signals. Trash- talking about poor whites indicates that your class-based ravings could be about any "other" with a less privileged background.naomi dagen bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636592739857173279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-22876159878809990212008-09-04T19:36:00.000-07:002008-09-04T19:36:00.000-07:00Excellent post.I was also surprised by the degree ...Excellent post.<BR/><BR/>I was also surprised by the degree to which the Progressive Folk felt free to attack Gov. Palin on an explicitly gender basis. A few days ago, I left <A HREF="http://thepoorman.net/2008/08/29/vagina-dumbtata/#comment-10530" REL="nofollow">a little comment</A> over at The Poor Man concerning this, and it didn't take long to see that it's not a subject to be discussed calmly -- or at all, for that matter.<BR/><BR/>It seems that the overriding urge to jump on a pigpile transcends mere ideological differences.Jim Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07358539074647113747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-4253895555638084152008-09-04T18:45:00.000-07:002008-09-04T18:45:00.000-07:00Re the engagement thing: I just finished The Novi...Re the engagement thing: I just finished The Novice's Tale by Margaret Frazer (recommended by a friend)and from it I learned that in the 1400s a betrothal, even a secret one between a girl and a boy, was considered by the Catholic Church to be as binding as a wedding in a cathedral. One could not marry another unless it was broken - something as hard to do as to dissolve a marriage.<BR/><BR/>Interesting, no?<BR/><BR/>p.s. The misogyny is stunning - and confirms my belief that all that guff about "I just hate her because she's Hillary" was, at least, 50% BS.YABhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00273753861194159127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-64980064934169776852008-09-04T14:09:00.000-07:002008-09-04T14:09:00.000-07:00I'm a little late, but power has been intermittent...I'm a little late, but power has been intermittent at my home in the Arkanshire thanks to Gustav.<BR/><BR/>The Whole Foods Nation makes it obvious that it considers white working stiffs to be subhuman, deserving only scorn and punishment, and then it wonders why those working stiffs won't vote for the anointed candidates of WFN.<BR/><BR/>The WFN elitists need to take a lesson from the Elephascist elitists: One can sneer at the rubes behind their backs all one likes--as I suspect Karl Rove, for example, does--but only fools sneer at them to their "bitter" faces.Ivory Bill Woodpeckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01318699512583970467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-29405690056874366302008-09-03T16:13:00.000-07:002008-09-03T16:13:00.000-07:00Please compare the Palin family to:the kennedy fam...Please compare the Palin family to:<BR/><BR/>the kennedy families (all of them)<BR/>the Rockefellers<BR/>Ike and Mamie<BR/>Ronald Reagan<BR/>the Clinton's<BR/>Carters (remember Billy)<BR/>FDR<BR/>Teddy Roosevelt's brother Elliott<BR/>Bush I and Bush II<BR/>John Kerry (marriage 1)<BR/>Obama's family<BR/>Where do the Palin's rank in family dysfunction with this lot?<BR/><BR/>I can not believe that the Obama camp is apparently bent on making this election about abortion rights and family values. And how has that worked for Democrats over the last decade? What happened to all those issues that Hillary outlined for us as the core of what this election must address? The Obamaopolis speech?jangleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16562164166132990166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-72534507859094639792008-09-03T15:43:00.000-07:002008-09-03T15:43:00.000-07:00anglachel you have hit the nail smack on the head....anglachel you have hit the nail smack on the head. the prog smears on palin are a particulary venomous mix of sexism and upper-mid-income class hatred aimed at the whote working class.<BR/><BR/>the "hilbilly" and "redneck" attacks on hillary's voters were precursors, but this new batch of attacks is even more intense.<BR/><BR/>the democrats have become utterly lost.<BR/><BR/>i am voting repubican for the first time in my life. for me the democratic party is now just a shell - an empty vehicle for antidemocratic technorats.Paul Shetlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09441814737948281448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-40838128166135339472008-09-03T15:26:00.000-07:002008-09-03T15:26:00.000-07:00Thank you for once again getting me passed my stat...Thank you for once again getting me passed my state of shock at how outrageous the Prog Boyz are. Some former Hillary supporters have completely lost any sense of shame and are stopping at nothing to trash this woman for making choices that they disagree with. It is all really a wolf-pack subterfuge. <BR/><BR/>It is really nice to know there is someone sane out there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-57812992145101603712008-09-03T10:40:00.000-07:002008-09-03T10:40:00.000-07:00"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her fathe...<I>"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."</I><BR/> --John McCain before a crowd at a Republican Senate fundraiser, 1998 (prior to calling his wife a "cunt" and a "trollop")<BR/><BR/>That's not to mention Ronnie Reagan's opinion that the correct word for young, unmarried pregnant women is, "promiscuous," unless of course, he was just pandering to the National Association of Evangelicals when he said that in 1983.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, misogyny happens on both sides of the isle and is ugly as hell, but in the case of the quotes, I'd kinda prefer to look at elected officials, particularly ones currently running for president. What some douchebag blogger writes about really doesn't have a whole lot of effect on me.<BR/><BR/>In terms of the real issues, though, I'm getting more and more convinced that Palin was a terrible mistake.cydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02906065454495734361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-55778179128808881512008-09-03T10:27:00.000-07:002008-09-03T10:27:00.000-07:00Go girl! Better than well said!I can't help notici...Go girl! Better than well said!<BR/><BR/>I can't help noticing that the Republicans are quickly accepting a women who agrees with them politically.I am not talking about the nattering naybobs.<BR/><BR/>It seems that the left is choke full of adolescent males and their female followers.<BR/><BR/>What you describe has been there all along but has been thrown in far sharper relief on the heels of Hillary trashing.<BR/><BR/>I don't want to be the part of any group who would act in such a way or a party whose leaders are so spineless that they don't come out hard and strong against it.<BR/><BR/>I agree with nacabet. Where is my Democratic Party?show mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06083761336244657868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-75822238668637064002008-09-03T08:15:00.000-07:002008-09-03T08:15:00.000-07:00When did Democrats become so disrespectful of peop...When did Democrats become so disrespectful of people's personal lives, their personal decisions and personal problems? And if Palin were a man there is no way the media attacks would be this vicious. In fact there'd probably be an element of empathy for the man whose "little girl" got pregnant out of wedlock. <BR/>Where's my Democratic Party? I want to be a member of a Party that does the right thingnancysabethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12147239032305248388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-36692570856121387822008-09-03T07:33:00.001-07:002008-09-03T07:33:00.001-07:00Damn, girl.Best thing you've ever posted, and that...Damn, girl.<BR/><BR/>Best thing you've ever posted, and that's saying something.<BR/><BR/>I'm a product of class privilege who now lives, first by necessity and now by choice, among people who are white, poor, and Southern. I'm very aware of the prejudices I've had to shed and the shameful reckoning I had to make with myself over what I once believed about these people, but I think the "Prog Boyz" and their MSMS counterparts are flat incapable of shame. <BR/><BR/>And they wonder why the "party of the working man/poor/underprivileged" has been such a failure at winning presidential elections. They wonder why the love for Hillary ran so deeply and fervently, why Bill is still so revered, why voters will rush to defend and embrace Palin regardless of their agreement with her political positions (another argument entirely). <BR/><BR/>The Democrats have miscalculated this thing from day one and are continuing to play a dangerous, tone-deaf, game of Risk. It remains to be seen whether they can reverse course, not now, but in the future. Perhaps an Obama loss is the only wake-up call that will work.DancingOpossumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15921571838267780848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-90171405157079597622008-09-03T05:24:00.000-07:002008-09-03T05:24:00.000-07:00The repugs and the main stream media made this mis...The repugs and the main stream media made this mistake with Bill Clinton. Regular people saw in Bill Clinton a regular guy that did what many regular guys do give the chance. The public wasn't going along with the impeachment nonsense and his approval ratings remained high. <BR/><BR/>Gov. Palin, especially of she blows them away in speeches and interviews, could do the same thing. Millions of everyday people have teen age daughters that got pregnant and had to get married -including our presidential nominee on the other side. This reaction of the MSM is not going to be the reaction of middle america-there but or the grace of god go I they will saybornagaindemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117727379617757861noreply@blogger.com