tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post4076570354315761389..comments2023-09-29T06:57:06.991-07:00Comments on Anglachel's Journal: Why We LoseAnglachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01110546252851760414noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-79888042224540830102009-08-31T08:45:25.525-07:002009-08-31T08:45:25.525-07:00Hi, I haven't been visiting as regularly as I ...Hi, I haven't been visiting as regularly as I used to, but I just wanted to thank you for these recent posts - it really helped focus my thinking around what's not happening in the healthcare debate, and I used it as part of my piece today. Now the question I have is... what do we do about it?nycweboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07894760893525668305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-13363024091121054502009-08-30T10:20:46.625-07:002009-08-30T10:20:46.625-07:00"There is an unsettling voyeurism on the part..."There is an unsettling voyeurism on the part of the Blogger Boyz (and not just them) when gazing at the body politic and imagining their relationship to it, how they want to handle it, what it should feel like, how it should move and behave in response to their desires."<br /><br />Another classic observation from Anglachel. You've been missed.Palominohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01797386939480032699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-63097292772296697402009-08-30T09:36:12.319-07:002009-08-30T09:36:12.319-07:00Yes, it's naive to think that the Democrats ar...Yes, it's naive to think that the Democrats aren't **trying** to "lose" when it comes to healthcare reform.<br /><br />The sad thing though, is that no matter how thoroughly the Democrats sell their collective souls, the corporations they are pandering to are likely to drop them for the next big thing. If Obama is tanking, they'll RUN to the GOP. <br /><br />One would think the smart thing -- STILL -- would be to enact good policy so they're popular with the voters....but, that is where Democrats are actually as dumb as Somerby thinks they are.Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09704607178106828945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-10717792445690263112009-08-30T08:33:42.741-07:002009-08-30T08:33:42.741-07:00Do you think that the “two” parties are actually i...Do you think that the “two” parties are actually in collusion? Afterall, it's all about the cash. <br /><br />Fundamentally, there are no differences today between Democrats and Republicans so the idea that there are “two sides” is purely a figment of the media’s imagination. Again, the media is only happy when it can find two opinions and create a war between them. But in truth, there is no war…both the Dems and Repubs are the SSDD.<br /><br />I think Pacific John at Alegre’s Corner says it very well:<br /><br /><br />“The optics are clear once you see them <br /> <br />Everything the administration is doing is to deprive the GOP of its campaign funding stream, and steer the money hose to Obama 2012. <br /><br />Here's Bill Moyers courtesy of Glenn Greenwald: <br /><br />MOYERS: [T]he Democratic Party [...] has told its progressives -- who are the most outspoken champions of health care reform -- to sit down and shut up. That's what Rahm Emanuel, the Chief of Staff at the White House, in effect told progressives who stood up as a unit in Congress[...] <br /><br />And I think the reason for that is -- in the time since I was there, 40 years ago, the Democratic Party has become like the Republican Party, deeply influenced by corporate money. <br /><br />I think Rahm Emanuel, who is a clever politician, understands that the money for Obama's re-election will come from the health care industry, from the drug industry, from Wall Street. And so he's a corporate Democrat who is determined that there won't be something in this legislation that that will turn off these interests. . . .<br /><br />It's crystal clear to any progressive with even high school savvy. <br /><br />Shame? Yes. But why, why did they cave on their principles? It's still all about cash. Dem campaign institutions still think they have no choice but to pamper, feed and care for the Obama campaign fundraising machine. This sensibility ranges from the outright lust of Pelosi to the reluctant bribery and extortion of genuine progressives whose base was co-opted to fund the Party of One.”<br /><br />The Blogger Boyz are the worst of the Dem Campaign Institution because they have such a following of sheeples...they think that whomever has the most money wins. <br /><br />Depends upon what you’re trying to win, don’t you think?Marshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04729627562550166150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-1843022345460483562009-08-30T06:30:52.316-07:002009-08-30T06:30:52.316-07:00A series of disjointed thoughts:
I read Somerby’s...A series of disjointed thoughts:<br /><br />I read Somerby’s linked Falllows piece drop jawed. No amount of cynicism is enough. Your paragraph about “the political battle for the support of the have-littles” reminded me of Katrina and the aftermath for some reason. I have been thinking about your grad school post almost on a daily basis for the past several months. Your note about the blogger boyz and the body politic is as masterful a metaphor as I have ever read. There is a book in there, and it’s not the one Eric Alterman wrote:<br /><br />“Bloggers on the Bus: A Conversation with Eric Boehlert-Part 1”<br />http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/014129.php <br /><br />which you also wrote about on May 10, 2009. <br /><br />I hope you and your home stay safe.harpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14010306770924393097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-87308440248801379472009-08-29T16:16:11.958-07:002009-08-29T16:16:11.958-07:00This one's easy. Democrats lose because they&...This one's easy. Democrats lose because they're corporate gatekeepers. Losing is their job, it's what they're paid for.Randall Kohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04604360606718453116noreply@blogger.com