tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post3004047129749974414..comments2023-09-29T06:57:06.991-07:00Comments on Anglachel's Journal: Somerby is RightAnglachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01110546252851760414noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-71597739269545911352008-11-09T12:23:00.000-08:002008-11-09T12:23:00.000-08:00Thank you. Your comments and Somerby's comments d...Thank you. Your comments and Somerby's comments describe what I feel perfectly.<BR/><BR/>The cynical manipulation of voter anxiety during the last week of the campaign was the icing on the cake. <BR/><BR/>This election marks a turning point in our political culture - the point at which the Democratic party, including the progressives, fully embraced and embodied the ideas and tactics of authoritarian movements. I hope we see humane, progressive policy changes emerge from this nightmare. But I don't expect we'll see more than cosmetic changes. <BR/><BR/>I don't have much to add to the discussion, but I'll share this quote from a message I received this morning on a listserve to which I belong - creepy.<BR/><BR/>"America’s #1 Lesson from the 2008 Campaign: 'Rosa Parks sat so that Dr. King could stand. Dr. King stood so that Obama could run. Obama ran so that our children could fly!' (appropriate for all of us who believe in Hope and the American Dream). <BR/> <BR/>"Until Tuesday night, the greatest moments of my life was when the 1986 Mets came from behind with two outs in the bottom of the 9th to win Game 6 followed by their victory the next night to win the World Series. I thought nothing would ever compare to that euphoria….until now. Now, I know what V-J Day felt like! For all of us who grew up on sports as the only way we could really feel passionate about something other than getting a job or some individual achievement, it’s nice to see that so many of us have found a cause with even more meaning that we can all be part of."<BR/><BR/>I guess I'm one of the "something wrong with them" crowd too. Glad to see I'm in good company. <BR/><BR/>Could you imagine if it were a Hillary victory? There would be pundits left and right talking about 'what might have been' and how this is an occasion for "sadness as well as relief."Nina Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07411919366541020475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-27784919531225771352008-11-07T22:30:00.000-08:002008-11-07T22:30:00.000-08:00I can't be happy for anyone who uses misogyny, hom...I can't be happy for anyone who uses misogyny, homophobia, race-baiting, and classicism to win. Especially when his opponent could have been our first woman president and would have been a better at the job. This moment was stolen from millions of women and Krugman expects us to cry for the person who is responsible? Would people be saying these things if Clinton was elected instead? I doubt it. I never cared about Obama's race more than his character. Maybe that makes me more post-racial than Obama and his supporters.cutepeachpandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11575452144198190224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-85500747237225197922008-11-07T20:40:00.000-08:002008-11-07T20:40:00.000-08:00I have been struggling to understand my own emotio...I have been struggling to understand my own emotional election aftermath, which left me angry on many fronts, yet elated to know that the Bush years are almost behind us. Bob Somerby's column and your follow up comments really helped me understand why I wince when coworkers fawn over Obama's win, or my local media carries a headline with glowing praise about "America's vote for historic change", or the national media refers to Obama's campaign as "the best ever".<BR/><BR/>The sexist, lying, hateful Spring primary will stick in my craw for many years to come. Obama's implicit permission to oppose gay marriage in California and the resulting vote will forever tarnish my (and my partner's) dream of tying the knot in our own country.<BR/><BR/>Did the sight of Jesse Jackson Sr. with tears in his eyes cause me to shed a tear too? No. Tears have to be earned, and no one in this campaign came anywhere close the earning them.<BR/><BR/>I especially appreciate your closing comments. It is time to call out the liberal blogosphere's brethren who caved in to their principles and used party solidarity as justification for allowing previously well-reasoned dialogue to descend into howling witch hunts. TalkLeft is not alone, but one of the most blatant examples.<BR/><BR/>Yep, Mr. Krugman, there is something wrong here, but it is not me nor those who were unable to shed a tear.Mister Pleasanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15525855662696903836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-66376442145433467782008-11-07T19:37:00.000-08:002008-11-07T19:37:00.000-08:00Even in Canada, I am constantly being urged to act...Even in Canada, I am constantly being urged to act as though people decided NOT to crucify the Christ, but elect him President instead. I was happy to see so many people happy. I wasn't so happy for all the reasons you weren't and aren't. And the extreme and ongoing celebrations and backpatting makes me VERY nervous. Once again, it seems difficult to make these points without being suspected a racist. Or at least a party pooper. What I want to know is, what ISN'T racist about NOT holding an "African American" President-Elect to the same standards we would hold ANY candidate?hesperiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12014669466971430224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-43732604526788831452008-11-07T19:27:00.000-08:002008-11-07T19:27:00.000-08:00A "facsimile of a hyena?" I largely agree with yo...A "facsimile of a hyena?" I largely agree with your post, and I agree that after the primaries and the convention JM became quite partisan, but I found that quoted phrase to lack the sort of humane balance I thought you were celebrating. Although I disagreed with it, I respected your choice not to endorse or sanction the results of a flawed and perhaps corrupt nomination process. Others (like JM and Taylor Marsh) felt that way too about the process but went another way because they couldn't stomach the wingnuts having another four years. Is it that choice that you can't respect, or the way they went about it? Too partisan? I'm not taking shots, just trying to understand, because that quoted phrase seemed to demonize or dehumanize someone you disagree with. That seemed very unusual for someone as enlightened and liberal as you are, and it kinda freaked me out as a result. Just saying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com