tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post5231313004819563345..comments2023-09-29T06:57:06.991-07:00Comments on Anglachel's Journal: The Inevitability GameAnglachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01110546252851760414noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-4246178252517770492008-03-09T14:04:00.000-07:002008-03-09T14:04:00.000-07:00This is such an amazingly insightful post. In it, ...This is such an amazingly insightful post. In it, you clearly articulate what has been rattling around in my brain for a while now.<BR/><BR/>This campaign season has been incredibly eye-opening in that it has exposed the fact that there are a huge number of us who have no place to share our ideas. Please, is there anyone out there who has the desire or inclination to develop a forum that represents the demographic that favors Hillary?<BR/><BR/>It seems obvious that we will need one when Hillary takes office. There's really no reason to believe that the current crop of BloggerBoys will be firmly behind our next President.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-52836183372982659002008-03-07T16:18:00.000-08:002008-03-07T16:18:00.000-08:00I note bloggers trying to scare Clinton's base wit...I note bloggers trying to scare Clinton's base with a McCain presidency, despite John Kerry trying to recruit McCain as Vice President in 2004. They pretend we didn't hear Dick Morris and Rush Limbaugh publicly debating how Reps can best game the Texas Democratic primary. (Unlike Obama bloggers, I have no illusion that Repubs who followed Rush's advice will vote for Hil in November.) Clinton's base is made up of Reagan Democrats, many of whom supported the Iraq War in 2003, who won't be swayed by hyper-partisan scare tactics aimed at McCain -- now or in November.<BR/><BR/>I'm not taking any lectures on party unity from people who blogged that Hillary is anti-abortion because she wants to reduce unwanted pregnancies. And I'm certainly not taking any lectures on party unity from Ted Kennedy, who ambushed Jimmy Carter despite his Chappaquiddick problem.<BR/><BR/>Obama's only chance in November would be if he continued to get his ass kissed round the clock by the media. A G-rated Presidential campaign? That's so boring, it's not likely to happen.10-Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015520406033557360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-72450152608730082752008-03-07T11:27:00.000-08:002008-03-07T11:27:00.000-08:00Great post as always. And I still have not heard a...Great post as always. And I still have not heard a sound argument from Obama supporters explaining how Samantha Powers remarks, in the capacity of senior foreign policy advisor to Obama, reconcile with his "politics of Hope" message. <BR/><BR/>http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/03/monster-march-monday-money-bomb.htmlKevin DuJanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332013511651428837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-54250061838356055092008-03-07T05:01:00.000-08:002008-03-07T05:01:00.000-08:00Well put, Anglachel. This growing Obama- and medi...Well put, Anglachel. This growing Obama- and media-driven contempt for half the progressive movement is the most polarizing force we've endured within our party in decades. <BR/><BR/>This powerful and undemocratic partnership among a campaign, netroots, and the mainstream media has created a new culture which finds perfectly acceptable a shocking dismissal of all appearance of fairness and a level of disdain for whole segments of the American population, the likes of which we have not seen in the media or in our party in my lifetime. <BR/><BR/>The resulting voter alienation may indeed snatch defeat from the jaws of victory come November. It's great that certain populations segments feel more empowered and unified (younger men and AAs)and are enjoying a strengthened voice through the A-list blogs and the blogs' increasing synergy with the MSM. But the wielding of this new newfound power to generate disdain for and suppression of other groups violates everything our party stands for.<BR/><BR/>It is frightening that Obama supporters refuse to acknowledge ANY hints that their "unity movement" has become fractious, elitist, small-minded and tyrannical. Like a fundamental religion, to acknowledge the slightest fault and the need for repair apparently feels to them like blasphemy. This is an increasingly dangerous trend. They see "identity politics" everywhere but in themselves.<BR/><BR/>Similarly, for the MSM to truly acknowledge they've played far too large a role in selecting our candidate for us would be to lose face and influence, and that, apparently, we cannot have.<BR/><BR/>I would think we all are losing our minds if it weren't that I recently read "Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me): Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts," by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson. Tavris and Aronson are highly respected behavioral psychologists who show how humans' primeval need to reduce cognitive dissonance leads us into unwavering memes such as "Saddam has WMDs and is responsible for 9/11." <BR/><BR/>But biology, say the authors, is not destiny. By understanding our proclivity to self-delusion and exposing it whenever it crops up, we can free ourselves to stay on our progressive path.bzUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12424608655556079939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-46404955474259473132008-03-07T04:48:00.000-08:002008-03-07T04:48:00.000-08:00Wonderful post. Well thought and very articulate. ...Wonderful post. Well thought and very articulate. I will be sharing it w/friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-11762259871601620512008-03-06T23:06:00.000-08:002008-03-06T23:06:00.000-08:00Great post as usual Anglachel.anonymous #1 (we sho...Great post as usual Anglachel.<BR/>anonymous #1 (we should start using names on here, especially if you are a regular visitor): When I first came out for Hillary on my facebook page in early January I was immediately bombarded with postings and messages asking me why I "hate Obama" and that my decision to support her was "surprising" considering my very liberal viewpoints. It's only gotten worse since then. It's EXACTLY the Bush way of thinking and viewing the world. "Either you're with us or against us". Now Obama has made this election into either you're with me or you're a: racist, race traitor, uneducated, an Archie Bunker, not really a progressive...the list goes on. These folks just cannot understand how in the world there are people like us who actually like Hillary Clinton. I'm glad Samantha Powers came out and said what she and the Obamabots have been thinking all along: Hillary Clinton is a monster and there is NO WAY millions of people support her on their own accord so she's a monster who has been bamboozling and lying to voters all along to get their vote. Because that's the only explanation as to why she won all of these big states with over a million people voting for her in the TX and FL primaries! They really think we're so uneducated and trashy that we are unable to use our brains and figure out the best candidate for ourselves when in actuality it's been Obama who has the cult following and people fainting at his rallies, spending the entire day online just to negate any positive Hillary news that might appear on the A-list blogs, making sure Clinton supporters are being intimidated and locked out of caucuses, and believing whatever plagiarized bullshit their messiah puts into their heads. Makes you really think who is really being bamboozled here. Hey, I like Hillary but I don't worship her. I won't "pick up paper cups to clear his path" as Halle Berry said about her new savior. <BR/>They've carried this thinking into their analysis of FL and MI. It's unfathomable to Obamabots that Clinton could've won 1.5 million people alone in the FL primary. It MUST be because Obama didn't campaign down there. Because if he had gone down their and wowed them with his magical speeches he would've definitely won!!! Same with MI because hope and change is definitely on the minds of laid-off Michiganders losing their homes. <BR/>Obamabots have an explanation for everything yet everything they say doesn't add up and isn't substantiated by the evidence we're seeing in the national polls and the voter turnout in these large primaries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-1336955026010144392008-03-06T22:48:00.000-08:002008-03-06T22:48:00.000-08:00Just point that MI was a democratic decision but F...Just point that MI was a democratic decision but FL was indeed a republican decision. Just wanted to make that distinction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-76477455562156374712008-03-06T22:36:00.000-08:002008-03-06T22:36:00.000-08:00Amazingly articulated. I think you showed exactly...Amazingly articulated. I think you showed exactly why we clinton supporters think she has the ability to win this nomination. Not that she absolutely will, but I believe it is just pompous to call for her to withdraw and act like she is already beaten, when the truth is, neither of them will get to 2025. anyway, thank you for laying this out so well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4119943.post-70346247733974523442008-03-06T22:33:00.000-08:002008-03-06T22:33:00.000-08:00Great post. I've been trying to articulate those i...Great post. I've been trying to articulate those ideas for weeks and haven't been able to make the points. <BR/><BR/>One other thought -- the argument that FL and MI votes are somehow "unfair" because no one campaigned there is absurd. It supposes that without television ads, negative mailers and the likes that people don't know anything about the candidates for whom they are voting. It's as though BO doesn't trust the citizens of FL and MI to turn on the news or read the paper or search the net to find out about the people they were nominating.<BR/><BR/>It's the same kind of thinking that had Samantha Power calling Ohioians "obsessed" and and Hillary a "monster," while BO referred to Ohioians as Archie Bunkers.<BR/><BR/>Progressives derided Bush for saying "If you aren't with us you're against us." and now some are saying, "If you aren't for BO there's something seriously wrong with you."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com